Tag: The War

Nikki Haley Slammed For Not Mentioning ‘Slavery’ As Cause Of The Civil War In ‘Word Salad’ Answer During Town Hall

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New York Post:

Democrats and supporters of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley on Wednesday after she refused to name slavery as the primary cause of the Civil War. 

Haley, 51, made the apparent gaffe during a town hall event in Berlin, NH, after a voter asked the former United Nations ambassador to identify the cause of the deadliest war in American history. 

The White House hopeful appeared caught off guard by the question and failed to mention the antebellum South’s “peculiar institution” in her response. 

Although her answer was ridiculous and she is a despicable human being, “slavery” did not cause the Civil War.

Slavery did not cause a civil war throughout the entirety of United States history leading up to 1860. When the voters elected Abraham Lincoln in November of 1860, it was not because he promised to abolish slavery. Abolition was never on his agenda.

When South Carolina seceded from the United States in December of 1861, there was no war. It is certainly true that South Carolina, and the other Deep South states which seceded in January of 1861, had concerns for the future of slavery. But there was no war. If we are talking about the political concern for the future of slavery and the secession of the Deep South states in December of 1860 and January of 1861, then we are not talking about a war. We are especially not talking about the Civil War. There was no war.

There was no war when the Deep South states created and joined the Confederate States government in February of 1861. There was no war when Lincoln was inaugurated in March of 1861.

However, in his inaugural address, Lincoln did promise to start a war. You see, President Abraham Lincoln merely refused to acknowledge the cold hard facts of reality: the Deep South states peacefully and democratically seceded from the USA, and then they peacefully and democratically formed the CSA.

For months, there existed two American republics. For months, they co-existed in peace. Oh, there were instances of violence exchanged between the agents and the people of both republics, to be sure. But there was no state of war. There was no Civil War.

If we do not know the history, and if we totally goober up the timeline, perhaps for current ideological reasons, then the statement that “slavery” caused the Civil War might seem like a sensible comment to make. As if everyone was just hanging out, having a good time in 1861, and then — BOOM! — all of a sudden, “slavery” happened, and that started the war. It’s nonsense.

The Civil War was about the thing that started the war. And it was not “slavery” that started the war. The thing that started the war between the USA and the CSA was Abraham Lincoln’s refusal to accept the departure of the Deep South. That is why on April 4, 1861, he ordered an invasion of CSA territorial waters. Much lip service is given to Lincoln today for maneuvering the CSA into “firing the first shot” at the Battle of Fort Sumter on April 12, but that is also nonsense for a couple of reasons. First of all, the Confederates only fired on US forces because the US invaded the Confederacy. The “first shot” was not the first act of aggression in that scenario.

Secondly, it was not even the Battle of Fort Sumter that started the Civil War. According to the post-war, Lincoln appointee-packed US Supreme Court, the Civil War was initiated when Abraham Lincoln declared a state of war against the Confederacy by announcing the blockade of Confederate ports, on April 19, 1861. Until then, there was no state of war. But Lincoln wanted a war, he promised to start a war, he deliberately started a war, and that is why the Civil War happened.

Activist Pushes Back On Claims He’s Not Kin To Robert E. Lee

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Axios:

Rev. Rob W. Lee, an anti-racism and social justice advocate, and his family are rebuking claims from Confederate Civil War buffs that they aren’t distant relatives of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

The North Carolina pastor has called for the removal of monuments dedicated to the general he says is his slaveholding ancestor. Confederate apologists have disputed his family connection to the general, and he says he’s been bombarded with death threats.

Rob W. Lee provided Axios a nearly 400-page family genealogy report gathered by a hired genealogist that ties him to Lee over multiple generations using a zig-zag of births and family marriages.

“The Reverend” Rob Lee—a Cultural Marxist propagandist who has attempted to make a name for himself by dumping all over his alleged ancestors to score points with historical illiterates—is still a liar and a fraud. His claim to fame is that he is a descendant of General Robert E. Lee, but he is not. Nor is he a nephew of the General, as he has also falsely claimed. After being exposed as a liar and a fraud, he has now returned with 400 pages worth of bullcrap to explain that he is distantly-related to the General.

Well, who isn’t?

I am descended from more than a dozen Civil War veterans, and I could list them all, along with the units they served in, in addition to detailing how I am descended from them, in a page or less. I would not need to hire anyone to do it for me. I would not need 400 pages to do it.

Apparently, the race-baiting “reverend” Rob is simply hoping that no one notices how far he had to move the goal post in order to continue pretending that he has some sort of clout or authority to speak about General Lee.

Battle Of Honey Springs Reenactment Scheduled

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Muskogee Phoenix:

The weekend starts early with Education Day on Nov. 5. Beginning at 9 a.m. on Friday, students from schools across the state, as well as the general public, will have the opportunity to explore numerous education stations teaching topics related to the Civil War in Indian Territory and the battle itself. Living historians will demonstrate various military drills, cooking techniques and other everyday activities for soldiers. There also will be numerous sutlers selling 19th-century reproduction military equipment, clothing, books and souvenirs. Food vendors also will be on-site. Education Day is free to the public.

On Nov. 6, and 7, camps will open to the public at 10 a.m. The Battle of Honey Springs reenactment will take place at 1 p.m. each day. There also will be special presenters both days leading up to the battle reenactments. The cost for Saturday and Sunday will be $10 for adults. Children ages 12 and under are free.

The Battle of Honey Springs reenactment shows the largest of approximately 107 documented Civil War military engagements in present-day Oklahoma. The engagement took place on July 17, 1863, just two weeks after the famous Battles of Gettysburg and Vicksburg. Approximately 9,000 Union and Confederate troops, mostly American Indians and African Americans, were involved in the Battle of Honey Springs. Of those, approximately 200 total casualties were suffered. After a decisive Union victory, Confederates lost control of Indian Territory north of the Arkansas River. The Union victory also ensured federal control of Fort Gibson in Indian Territory and Fort Smith in Arkansas.

Deal To Move Confederate Monument From Courthouse In Fort Smith Rejected

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40/29:

“We’re just here to help place a monument that was to have been in a cemetery where it needs to be,” Fort Smith City Administrator, Carl E. Geffken said. “There are more confederate soldiers buried in Oak Cemetery than there are in the National Cemetery here in Fort Smith and that was where the monument was initially going to be placed. We would donate that land to the UDC.”

“What Mr. Geffken has offered is a non-offer, a non-thought-filled offer and in fact it’s insulting,” said Joey McCutchen, an attorney who represents the local chapter of the UDC. “We would be fools to accept his offer.”

Geffken told 40/29 News he got an estimate of the cost to move the monument from the courthouse to historic Oak Cemetery. The bid came in at $90,000.

None of the money would come from taxpayers, Geffken said.

The plan would give the UDC a perpetual easement to the monument.

McCutchen told 40/29 News that’s not good enough, “Why would the UDC move from one government owned parcel to another government owned parcel so that the next time somebody’s not happy and when somebody wants to erase history they can move the monument again. We’re not interested in that, that’s never been part of the discussion. The discussions have always been regarding a private agreement, just like we just hammered out in Bentonville, which has taken over a year and a half.”

Movement Underway To Remove Fort Smith Confederate Statue

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Southwest Times Record:

An online petition to remove the Confederate soldier statue from the Sebastian County Courthouse lawn passed 1,000 names signed shortly after noon Tuesday.

The Sebastian County Clerk responded Monday that her office had not received any requests to remove the statue. Fort Smith Mayor George McGill did not have a statement as of Tuesday afternoon.

The First National Bank downtown has always been conveniently situated for folks in eastern Sequoyah County who choose to keep their money in Fort Smith. With a quick jaunt across the river during rush hour on pay day, one can enter the drive-through with a right turn off of bustling Garrison Avenue. Once business has concluded, one can avoid the worst downtown traffic for a couple of blocks by taking 6th Street south from the drive-through, and rolling west on Rogers Avenue. It was a journey I rode along on many times as a child. Which is why I cannot remember a time when I was not aware of the Confederate monument at the courthouse.

When I was about five years old, I asked one of my parents who the statue was supposed to be. I was told that it was supposed to be a soldier from Arkansas who died in the Civil War. I was told that a long time ago, the people picked sides and fought a war against each other and that the statue commemorates a soldier from the side that lost.

I knew from an early age that I was descended from men who fought on both sides of the war. When I got a lot older, I learned that I am descended from six Unionists and five Confederates, as well as three others who were drafted into the Confederate Army but deserted. Except for one of the Unionists, all of the Civil War veterans from whom I directly descend were Southerners; mostly of the Upper variety. The border states were where the war mattered most, where the war truly did place relatives against each other, and where the term “civil war” actually can describe what happened. Fighting here was bitter, and the war profoundly impacted the lives of most people.

It is possible to see what the process of post-war healing actually looked like by researching the genealogy of families who were involved in the war. When veterans of both sides returned home to live among each other in civil society, the vast majority of them befriended each other and moved along with their lives. Within one or two generations, members of the families that had staunchly supported one side were married to members of families that had staunchly supported the other side. A person born around the turn of the twentieth century might have had a grandfather on each side. By that time the surviving veterans of each side routinely attended reunions and other events with each other. Old Unionists, who counted their own amongst the Confederate dead, watched as monuments went up in cities all over the South to commemorate their friends from the other side, such as the one in downtown Fort Smith–which has always served as a symbol of post-war unity; not division.